Frankenbrakes and brake improvement discussion
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I have some from Avid, the package is so big it will last me 1000 years if not more.
Thanks, I went for the same oil I use on my chain. By the way, the ball joint pointed by the arrow is also outside the hydraulic system
No.
Maybe it's time for a rebuild? You can remove the lever blade without needing to bleed the system
Yeah I meant the seals on the piston after that. Hayes told me a dab of grease on the end of the ball joint. I used DOT grease because it was close but I'm sure something else would work too, like Slick Honey.I have some from Avid, the package is so big it will last me 1000 years if not more.
Thanks, I went for the same oil I use on my chain. By the way, the ball joint pointed by the arrow is also outside the hydraulic system
When 1 of my levers was getting sticky, it was also a bit noisy. I replaced the bearings first, then greased the ball end, and finally cleaned and greased the piston seals. The last one did the trick - there was a tiny bit of grit stuck on one of the seals.
Has anyone tested Cura 4s with the new-ish FCS lever? They claim it increases leverage and some reviews indicate it provides more power along with being slightly longer, but I can't seem to find much info aside from the NSMB review. Anyone know how much it changes the leverage and if it's a big improvement?
Also, if anyone wants to add Intend Trinity to the spreadsheet: they claim 17mm pistons, 9.5mm master, and mechanical leverage of 7.3 with overall of 46.78:1. I haven't verified on mine, though.
Joking aside, I seem to recall Hayes telling me you could remove the lever and lightly grease the pivot. I never tested that, though. I definitely remember how irritating it was, so you aren't alone. Maybe call Hayes and see what they suggest.
Also, if anyone wants to add Intend Trinity to the spreadsheet: they claim 17mm pistons, 9.5mm master, and mechanical leverage of 7.3 with overall of 46.78:1. I haven't verified on mine, though.
Yes, I had this problem on one set. I don't think I ever solved it, instead I put them on my wife's bike and it helps me keep track of her in the woods
Joking aside, I seem to recall Hayes telling me you could remove the lever and lightly grease the pivot. I never tested that, though. I definitely remember how irritating it was, so you aren't alone. Maybe call Hayes and see what they suggest.
I'm not really annoyed by it, but yeah I'll message them and see or just lube pivot.Has anyone tested Cura 4s with the new-ish FCS lever? They claim it increases leverage and some reviews indicate it provides more power along with being slightly longer, but I can't seem to find much info aside from the NSMB review. Anyone know how much it changes the leverage and if it's a big improvement?
Also, if anyone wants to add Intend Trinity to the spreadsheet: they claim 17mm pistons, 9.5mm master, and mechanical leverage of 7.3 with overall of 46.78:1. I haven't verified on mine, though.
Yes, I had this problem on one set. I don't think I ever solved it, instead I put them on my wife's bike and it helps me keep track of her in the woods
Joking aside, I seem to recall Hayes telling me you could remove the lever and lightly grease the pivot. I never tested that, though. I definitely remember how irritating it was, so you aren't alone. Maybe call Hayes and see what they suggest.
I was flicking them out of habit yesterday, and a buddy was looking around asking if anyone else can see the bird chirping nearby
Hayes CS is really quick to respond in my experience.I'm not really annoyed by it, but yeah I'll message them and see or just lube pivot.
I was flicking them out of habit yesterday, and a buddy was looking around asking if anyone else can see the bird chirping nearby
No, but pad rattle is rattly
Mine are still squeak and rattle—free.
I need to try and bend out the spring clip thingamabobmajiggerator
I run 4 pairs, and so far none of them squeak or have any kind of issue.
Did anyone ever try formula cura levers with magura calipers?
Ive got one cura 4 that works great!
And one with lazy pistons... even full disassemble, clean and rebleed and still lazy as fook!
Hows pad retraction on the mt calipers?
Ive got one cura 4 that works great!
And one with lazy pistons... even full disassemble, clean and rebleed and still lazy as fook!
Hows pad retraction on the mt calipers?
Mt5 have decent pad retraction, definitely more than Formula on the Cura 2 (I don't know if the 4 differ from the 2 in that matter? Probably not)
Mt7 have less pad retraction than Mt5.
Magura can have lazy piston too. I have had it and manage to mitigate it. There is no spare parts available from magura. Formula on the other hand usually has plenty of spare parts listed. Did you try to get new seals and maybe even new pistons for your Cura caliper?
I'd tag the lack of response to insufficient oil movement rather than lazy pistons. The MC's oil pushing capacity is OK for two-piston calipers, but it's simply not enough for the 4-pot ones. This gets worse as the pads wear out. I've seen Cura 4s with 50% pad wear getting spongy AF and no bleed would get them back to the original tight lever feel.
Aren't Cura DOT versus mineral in Magura?
Is it the rear that's bad?
Like happymtb suggested, it's worth actually replacing the caliper seals - they deform and change in durometer over time which affects retraction and lever feel/response. The pistons should be replaced with the seals if the pistons are non-metal. I'd try it before ditching, often makes a noticeable difference. It is an art to get the new ones in though (if you think the old ones are tight...), take your time.
Not to dismiss the issue slimshady mentioned but if you're happy with one of the brakes (and have new pads) there's likely a problem with the other.
As for the magura caliper, going from 4x18mm -> 4x17mm...
