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Short Crank Curious…

Lelandjt

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Apr 4, 2008
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Unless that bike has spent 6 years on a trainer.
How about this: All my bikes have had 30mm or DUB cranks since like 2014 and I've never replaced a BB or bearing, just popped the seals out and regreased them. Some of these are BSA or PF30, but most are BB92 with the tiny bearings. This includes a 2014 Nomad that's still in my fleet.
 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
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How about this: All my bikes have had 30mm or DUB cranks since like 2014 and I've never replaced a BB or bearing, just popped the seals out and regreased them. Some of these are BSA or PF30, but most are BB92 with the tiny bearings. This includes a 2014 Nomad that's still in my fleet.
You must be a fair weather rider. :busted:
 

Jm_

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Jan 14, 2002
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I killed one in 6 CX races last season, span of a month and a half. Luckily I had the high quality 6806 standing by to replace OEM.
 

Lelandjt

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Apr 4, 2008
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*that's* the threshold?
:nerd:
Gotta pick something, so 1cm shorter than the shortest I've used since childhood. I could imagine going down to 155 for pure DH that's not racing or for high power e-biking. Shorter than that seems it would feel like spinning absurdly small circles and no torque. This is based on my pedaling around kids' bikes at the shop or friends' houses, without actually checking what the crank lengths are.

I'm curious what lengths you Monkeys have tried that feel reasonable vs "might as well be on pegs". I guess we should keep in mind that femur length figures into this feeling and my femurs are longer than ~98% of the USA population.
 

Flo33

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Mar 3, 2015
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Gotta pick something, so 1cm shorter than the shortest I've used since childhood. I could imagine going down to 155 for pure DH that's not racing or for high power e-biking. Shorter than that seems it would feel like spinning absurdly small circles and no torque. This is based on my pedaling around kids' bikes at the shop or friends' houses, without actually checking what the crank lengths are.

I'm curious what lengths you Monkeys have tried that feel reasonable vs "might as well be on pegs". I guess we should keep in mind that femur length figures into this feeling and my femurs are longer than ~98% of the USA population.
I've got an inseam of 89 cm / 35" and have forever been on 175 mm cranks on all but the dh bike. When pedal strikes on my 2016 Reign on 26" wheels got a bit too frequent for my liking I tried a 165 mm crank and since then never looked back. I just finished building a new roadbike and choose 170 mm cranks coz there is no option below that.
I'm not sure if I would go below 165 mm, the lowered torque and therefore needed smaller chainring size has its limits. Also one would lose the long legs torque advantages with cranks too short.
 

Gary

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Aug 27, 2002
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I just finished building a new roadbike and choose 170 mm cranks coz there is no option below that.
They're harder to find but I've been on 165mm shimano cranks on my roadbikes for well over a decade. 105 and above are all produced in 165mm
 

SuspectDevice

Turbo Monkey
Aug 23, 2002
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I run 162.75mm cranks on 2 of my 8 drop-bar bikes, I’d probably run more of them if I still had a drawer full of them.
I also have road bikes with 170, 172.5 and 175mm cranks. Literally, different strokes for different uses- my bikes with the most saddle to bar drop and longest stems(track bike and road fixed) get the shortest cranks for chest clearance. My singlespeed CX bike with the slackest seat angle has 175’s, cuz low torque singlespeed racing.
170 is my crank of choice for go-fast bikes with lots of drop that also have to climb(aka a bike i would enter a race on in 2024) My gravel bike and most of my vintage bikes are on 172.5, because they never get raced and my bar position is a little more “classic”.

My XC race bikes are both on 175- but they both have road bike seat angles and fixed seatposts, and one is occasionally a single speed that climbs big hills.
On any full suspension bike with a casette cog larger than 38 and a seat tube angle steeper than a road bike I have a HARD preference for 165 cranks- your feet being closer together makes for so much better handling, and i spend hundreds of hours a year on a fixed gear, so I have no qualms about spinning fast, even on flat pedals.

I ran 155mm Profiles on my hyper drilled, ultra low and slack Ironhorse SGS, and loved them- especially since the 100mm wide BB already gave you lots of corner-drive. I swapped to 165 Saints when I started racing a 73mm shell bike again, because i suck at setting up Profiles and I could get saints cheaper than a Ti profile spindle at that point. But i certainly missed all the advantages of 155mm cranks
Gearing on modern trail bikes is so damn low, it’s hard to imagine running long cranks- they certainly put lots of stress on your back climbing compared to shorter cranks, and they reduce your range of motion for weight shifts- not ideal with the longest and slackest bikes of all time!
 

Jm_

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Jan 14, 2002
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After a few weeks in varied terrain on 165s, here are my thoughts:






















I do not like pedaling in short-people circles.

I am forced to pedal these cranks because modern BBs are so low.
 

Gary

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Aug 27, 2002
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I'd probably recommend leaving the *thinking* to others

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